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КИДАЛЫ Теневого бизнеса. Сервисы кидал или ripperov, с неразрешёнными проблемами.

 
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  #1  
01.06.2015, 14:29
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Name: CardKingEnt
Link to Profile: http://business-club.biz/member.php?u=69737
ICQ: 693344583
Amount: $1365 USD
Reason: Vendor does not keep his words to delivery EXPECTED good as he described


Made contact private and advised me that he has a "very close friend" who has THOUSANDS of offset printing plastics(WITH HEAT PRESSED HOLO, FRONT AND BACK UV, SUPER BANK QUALITY) in stock. I explained to him that heat pressed, front and back UV is a MUST (even provided a link to him with what I'm looking for) and he showed me the designs on what his friend CURRENTLY has in stock via icq. We agreed on the sample price of $1365 including shipping. (pm me if you need link pictures Petrovich)


Wu was picked up on March by his drop (I can pm you WU drop name and MTCN to match it Petrovich), but ever since then he has been either ignoring me on icq or stalling time. It went from " I will update you with shipping within 24 HOURS bro", to "GIMME 48 HOURS to process your order bro". I find this very suspicious since he clearly indicated that his friend has the plastics ready in stock, with THOUSANDS of each design (check log for all the above comments)- also at first if you check the log, he claims that he DOES NOT know the source of the plastics when I asked him "does he print them?", now he claims that the delay is due to lag in offset printing.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
March 15th, goods finally arrived after all his delays and excuses.

But they are nothing like how he described prior to the transaction, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO the "SUPER BANK QUALITY" he claims to be. simply glitter plastics with hologram stickers, and ONLY (HSBC VISA AND METROBANK) TWO designs (BOTH which I didnt even ask for). After checking his thread, I realized both designs were what HE HAS IN STOCK, not his friend - so I assume he made up a friend who has "quality heat stamped plastics" as a lie and showed me fake photo galleries just to get business?

Two days ago, he also msged me to send me an additional 50BTC ASAP since thts "extra" for the shipping cost, which confuses me.

I more than willing to take off this blacklist once the EXPECTED goods are deliveried or I am refunded. I have already wasted time browsing through "his friends" SUPER BANK QUALITY plastic gallery with heat stamped holo while negotiating prices and designs with him. These plastics are NOT what the vendor promised, or claimed "HIS FRIEND" had in stock.




~~~~LOGS~~~~ from the bottom up =)
azn raver (01:30)
hello?


azn raver (01:08)
the quality is pretty much the same as my zebra printer, and there is NO Uv


azn raver (01:05)
not only you dont have designs. its fucking sticker holo heat pressed my ass.

azn raver (01:04)
this IS the ordered I paid and waited for.

azn raver (01:04)
"k make the order 20 GOLD HSBC master, 10 blue silver citi master, 10 gold citi master, 20 silver blue citi visa, 20 gold citi visa, 20 gold hsbc visa "


azn raver (01:03)
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT YOU SENT ME!?


azn raver (01:02)
YOU THERE!?

azn raver (08:06)
thanks

Card KingEnt (08:06)
ok i will keep u posted

azn raver (08:03)
neways keep me posted.. thanks..

azn raver (08:03)
this was the day after I sent WU bro. thts why I'm concerned.

azn raver (08:03)
azn raver (18:15)
hey bro when will I get tracking number?

Card KingEnt (19:05)
24 hours pls



azn raver (08:01)
I'm not bro.

Card KingEnt (08:01)
shoot

Card KingEnt (08:01)
like im one

Card KingEnt (08:01)
dont talk to me

Card KingEnt (08:01)
ok man but we are not rippers

azn raver (08:01)
I will have this log saved too thanks.

Card KingEnt (08:01)
ok

azn raver (08:01)
a day and half bro.

azn raver (08:01)
okay

azn raver (08:01)
I will type it up , but WILL NOT post yet.

Card KingEnt (08:01)
damn

Card KingEnt (08:01)
WELL GIVE IT ABOUT A DAY AND A HALFKOZ ITS 12 MIDNIGHT HERE

azn raver (08:00)
READ what I said bro. thanks

Card KingEnt (08:00)
OK

azn raver (08:00)
bro. I just said I WONT post YET

Card KingEnt (08:00)
U CANT DO THAT MAN

Card KingEnt (08:00)
WTF

Card KingEnt (08:00)
DUDE

Card KingEnt (08:00)
NO WAY

azn raver (08:00)
k I will type up black list and wont post yet bro. I'm not a trouble maker. but this is taking longer than I thought.

Card KingEnt (08:00)
ok

Card KingEnt (08:00)
or less

Card KingEnt (08:00)
and see if i can get tracking to u within 24 hours

Card KingEnt (08:00)
il rush him

Card KingEnt (08:00)
u getting story twisted

Card KingEnt (08:00)
but anyways

Card KingEnt (07:59)
the main guy

Card KingEnt (07:59)
no he's not

Card KingEnt (07:59)
thats what he said but also alot of people purchase from him

azn raver (07:59)
and now after 4 days you tell me hes printing them

azn raver (07:59)
yes I understand, but you clearly told me he has thousands of them READY in stock.

Card KingEnt (07:59)
its nowhere near

Card KingEnt (07:59)
if its fargo printed

Card KingEnt (07:59)
black list me

Card KingEnt (07:59)
not fargo printed

azn raver (07:59)
it just doesnt make sense right?

Card KingEnt (07:59)
no he's stuff is different

azn raver (07:59)
look at it from my point of view.

azn raver (07:59)
plus you told me he has them READY in stock. and showed me the pictures too.

azn raver (07:58)
k keep me posted. I print some plastics myself using zebra and fargo bro. thts why I dont understand why it takes so long to ship 100 samples.

Card KingEnt (07:58)
cool?

Card KingEnt (07:58)
il have him ship to u by today

Card KingEnt (07:58)
ok il rush him

Card KingEnt (07:57)
wtf

Card KingEnt (07:57)
man

Card KingEnt (07:57)
we are shipping ur order

Card KingEnt (07:57)
u cant do that

Card KingEnt (07:57)
u ruining my rep

Card KingEnt (07:57)
u blacklist me

Card KingEnt (07:57)
wtf

Card KingEnt (07:57)
no u cant

Card KingEnt (07:57)
its 12 am here midnight

azn raver (07:57)
one I get tracking I will take down blacklist. right now I need to protect myself.

Card KingEnt (07:57)
just chill

Card KingEnt (07:57)
and money has only been picked up 2 days ago

Card KingEnt (07:57)
within 48 hours

Card KingEnt (07:57)
you'll get tracking

Card KingEnt (07:56)
bro

azn raver (07:56)
now he doesnt have 100 samples to ship me after 4 days?

Card KingEnt (07:56)
u have tracking in less 48 hours

azn raver (07:56)
check log

azn raver (07:56)
you just told me he has THOUSANDS in stock for each design.

Card KingEnt (07:56)
chill dude

Card KingEnt (07:56)
u misread

Card KingEnt (07:56)
thats who he gets it from

Card KingEnt (07:56)
same one who makes cards for banks

Card KingEnt (07:56)
the real maker

Card KingEnt (07:56)
damn

Card KingEnt (07:56)
not him

Card KingEnt (07:55)
NO

Card KingEnt (07:55)
HE IS NOT

Card KingEnt (07:55)
he is not making them

azn raver (07:55)
sorry.

azn raver (07:55)
now you are telling me that hes printing new ones from offset printer.

Card KingEnt (07:55)
does

Card KingEnt (07:55)
some other guy

azn raver (07:55)
and its been 4 DAYS since WU was picked up

Card KingEnt (07:55)
he doesnt

Card KingEnt (07:55)
so whasts the problem here

azn raver (07:55)
if you check the log. you TOLD me he DOES NOT make them.

Card KingEnt (07:55)
within 48 hours like i promised

Card KingEnt (07:55)
ur getting ur package shipped

Card KingEnt (07:55)
but hey

Card KingEnt (07:55)
yes u are

Card KingEnt (07:55)
yeah he's printing new stuff on offsest

Card KingEnt (07:55)
offset

azn raver (07:55)
I need to protect myself and other carders sorry.

azn raver (07:55)
have all the logs saved.

Card KingEnt (07:55)
what

azn raver (07:54)
im sorry but Im posting blacklist.,

Card KingEnt (07:54)
thats what he said

azn raver (07:54)
you clearly told me that he has THOUSANDS of each in stock.l

Card KingEnt (07:54)
wil update u soon

Card KingEnt (07:54)
he said just be patient

Card KingEnt (07:54)
offset printer

Card KingEnt (07:54)
they r printing new batches from OFFSET

Card KingEnt (07:54)
he's working on it

azn raver (07:53)
hello?

Card KingEnt (19:51)
brb

Card KingEnt (19:51)
here are pics of hsbc by the way

Card KingEnt (19:51)
im processing alot of orders also

Card KingEnt (19:51)
to ship

Card KingEnt (19:51)
dont rush pls giv me 48 hours or so

azn raver (19:18)
thx bro

Card KingEnt (19:08)
he said he will mail asap

Card KingEnt (19:08)
with original sig strips heatpressed on them etc.

Card KingEnt (19:08)
but both are very good

Card KingEnt (19:08)
for now he only has hsbc black and metrobank blue

Card KingEnt (19:08)
bro i just got a call from him he siad he was out of the gold hsbc's

Card KingEnt (19:05)
thanks

Card KingEnt (19:05)
be patient

Card KingEnt (19:05)
24 hours pls

azn raver (18:15)
hey bro when will I get tracking number?

azn raver (23:50)
there?

azn raver (23:50)
hey bro

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
THE ABOVE ARE AFTER HE HAS PICKED UP WU, I HAVE FEW MISSING UNIMPORTANT BITS OF LOGS SAVED ON MY PHONE AS WELL (Let me know if you need Petrovich) NOTE* he ignored me for the whole day after picking up WU on march

azn raver (13:32)
been looking for these designs for a while now lol.

azn raver (13:31)
keep you posted bro thanks for the help bro.

azn raver (13:30)
k gotcha

Card KingEnt (13:28)
country: philippines

Card KingEnt (13:28)
wu drop is first name: vincent last name: jimenez

azn raver (13:28)
k np

Card KingEnt (13:28)
not too many designs

Card KingEnt (13:27)
thats all he has

azn raver (13:27)
let me know if he can upload photo album too so my partners can see

Card KingEnt (13:27)
my feedbacks speak for me

azn raver (13:27)
hopefully we can do long term business..

azn raver (13:27)
perfect

Card KingEnt (13:27)
he has thousands of each


azn raver (13:27)
okay

azn raver (13:27)
and leave WU drop here. I will try to send it either tday or tmr.

Card KingEnt (13:27)
im on the phone with him until now

azn raver (13:26)
k can you double confirm he has all those designs in stock first?

Card KingEnt (13:26)
yes thats correct

Card KingEnt (13:26)
1,300 + 65

azn raver (13:26)
k so total $1365 correct?

Card KingEnt (13:25)
hsbc is visa yes

Card KingEnt (13:25)
just add $65 for shipping

azn raver (13:25)
the HSBC does come in visa right? or no?

Card KingEnt (13:25)
got it .. 100 total

azn raver (13:25)
k make the order 20 GOLD HSBC master, 10 blue silver citi master, 10 gold citi master, 20 silver blue citi visa, 20 gold citi visa, 20 gold hsbc visa


Card KingEnt (13:23)
i print amex

Card KingEnt (13:23)
no

azn raver (13:23)
does he have amex as well? similar to the ones in album?

Card KingEnt (13:23)
yes he has gold and black

Card KingEnt (13:23)
but better.. the ones in your album look fake

azn raver (13:23)
oh he has the gold hsbc ones too?

Card KingEnt (13:23)
that i know of

Card KingEnt (13:22)
citibank hsbc thats it

Card KingEnt (13:22)
no standard chartered

Card KingEnt (13:22)
no

azn raver (13:22)
does he have the standard charted ones from the link?

azn raver (13:22)
http://imageshack.us/g/442/photxxxx25bj.jpg/

Card KingEnt (13:21)
but just mc logo

Card KingEnt (13:21)
in visa

Card KingEnt (13:21)
citibank

Card KingEnt (13:21)
same

Card KingEnt (13:21)
and the citibank in blue silver

azn raver (13:21)
so no masters ?

azn raver (13:21)
oh.,

azn raver (13:21)
take more pictures*

Card KingEnt (13:21)
just basically what i showed u

azn raver (13:21)
cant he take more for you..?

Card KingEnt (13:21)
he doesnt have much designs

Card KingEnt (13:21)
thats all i have

azn raver (13:21)
I will as soon as I have a full picture list.

azn raver (13:21)
I can wait until you get more pictures?

Card KingEnt (13:21)
or another time

Card KingEnt (13:20)
are you doing a purchase today

azn raver (13:20)
I see..

Card KingEnt (13:20)
he has but i dont have anymore pics of his stuff

azn raver (13:20)
any mastercard designs?

Card KingEnt (13:19)
You have received an image

Card KingEnt (13:18)
i hav 1 more pic of his stuff

azn raver (13:17)
yes

Card KingEnt (13:17)
here

azn raver (13:17)
thanks

Card KingEnt (13:17)
1sec

azn raver (13:16)
is there a way to get pictures of each one? I want a good mix, this way I can show my partners to increase buying volume

Card KingEnt (13:16)
yes and some others also

azn raver (13:15)
the blue and silver one right?

Card KingEnt (13:15)
different color background

Card KingEnt (13:15)
same design

azn raver (13:15)
must* yes

Card KingEnt (13:15)
yeah

Card KingEnt (13:15)
citi

Card KingEnt (13:15)
uv is a must

azn raver (13:15)
anything similar to that one?

azn raver (13:14)
yes citi gold

azn raver (13:14)
the first link

Card KingEnt (13:14)
citi gold?

Card KingEnt (13:14)
what 1st picture

****azn raver (13:14)
im looking for silver/gold background ones. heat stamp and UV is a must
****

azn raver (13:14)
anything similar to the first picture?

Card KingEnt (13:14)
he has more designs than that but i dont got the pics saved up

Card KingEnt (13:13)
You have received an image

Card KingEnt (13:12)
You have received an image

Card KingEnt (13:12)
You have received an image

azn raver (13:11)
let me see pictures please thx

azn raver (13:11)
k I will save this log in case then lol..

Card KingEnt (13:10)
he;s cool

Card KingEnt (13:10)
he's a friend

Card KingEnt (13:10)
yea

Card KingEnt (13:10)
i have pictures

azn raver (13:10)
and you trust this guy 100% right?

azn raver (13:10)
can he post a link of all the designs he has in stock?

azn raver (13:10)
sounds good 100 is only a sample order too. cuz I work with many groups here

Card KingEnt (13:09)
for 100 he said he could do 13 a piece

azn raver (13:07)
k thx

azn raver (13:07)
i dont want to do too much, cuz last time DHL stopped an order for 400 pieces..

Card KingEnt (13:07)
one second im on the phone with him

Card KingEnt (13:07)
he doesnt, only i have the chipped ones

azn raver (13:07)
I will take 100x as samples first to show my partners here. if good 200-500 per order..

azn raver (13:06)
k thx. ask him if he has the chipped ones too

Card KingEnt (13:06)
at what price do u want them and whats the quantity u purchasing

Card KingEnt (13:06)
let me call him now

azn raver (13:06)
if only he can lower price.. then maybe we can talk...

azn raver (13:05)
does he have the ones with chip on them too?

azn raver (13:05)
ah I see..

***Card KingEnt (13:05)
but theyre super bank quality *****
SUPER BANK QUALITY MY ASS.

Card KingEnt (13:05)
but he cant make custom designs

Card KingEnt (13:05)
offset printed

Card KingEnt (13:05)
his cards were done offset

Card KingEnt (13:05)
no

azn raver (13:04)
oh not from malaysia?

Card KingEnt (13:04)
he is from philippines

azn raver (13:04)
hes the supplier that scammed me last..

azn raver (13:04)
btw if your friend is from Malaysia see if you know this fucker: first name: TUN BOON LAST NAME: LOO city: Penang

azn raver (13:03)
yeah.. you have to lol..

***Card KingEnt (13:03)
i use the heatpressed ones

azn raver (13:03)
xxxxx used to tell me she gets them in bulk for $xx I used to get them for $xx each lol..

Card KingEnt (13:03)
when i hit up rolex and panerai

Card KingEnt (13:03)
i use them myself when i go instore sometimes

azn raver (13:02)
I see..

Card KingEnt (13:02)
yeah but thats his price

azn raver (13:02)
$xx a piece is a HUGE mark up...

Card KingEnt (13:02)
like thousands in stock


azn raver (13:02)
hmm.. ask him if he knows xxxxxx.. she used to get them from a person who makes them cost is much much lower though...

Card KingEnt (13:02)
he has a bunch of them though

Card KingEnt (13:01)
i dont know


azn raver (13:01)
he makes them himself?

Card KingEnt (13:01)
actualy he just have a bunch of them

Card KingEnt (13:01)
i know this guy personally

Card KingEnt (13:01)
no its not

azn raver (13:01)
actually I think it might be the same source bro.. these are from Malaysia too lol..

Card KingEnt (13:00)
they actualy look much nicer than those

Card KingEnt (13:00)
but he has mostly citibanks and hsbc

Card KingEnt (13:00)
i dont see all of them

azn raver (13:00)
I been using these for the past 2 years lol.. until both supplier became fucking rippers..

azn raver (13:00)
does he have all these designs?

azn raver (12:59)
http://imageshack.us/g/442/photoxxxxxbj.jpg/

azn raver (12:59)
k got it bro

azn raver (12:59)
k let me check

Card KingEnt (12:58)
i just did

Card KingEnt (12:56)
wil do it now

azn raver (12:56)
just need to confirm your identity thts all thx bro

Card KingEnt (12:56)
sure

azn raver (12:56)
can you pm me again via business-club

Card KingEnt (12:56)
693344583

azn raver (12:56)
hey
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01.06.2015, 21:26
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Another one?
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Yes, I was originally going to stand up for this vendor on Tommy23's BL against him - since he finally shipped out the plastics.

But after I contacted him about these poor quality plastics this is what he says,



Card KingEnt (06:13)
bro i didnt make those

Card KingEnt (06:13)
i told u they was from a friend

Card KingEnt (06:13)
i did not print those

Card KingEnt (06:13)
those weere offset printed from what i know

Card KingEnt (06:13)
real sig strips etc

Card KingEnt (06:13)
i didnt make that though

Card KingEnt (06:13)
i just shipped to u

Card KingEnt (06:13)
i told u they belong to a friend

Card KingEnt (06:15)
i dont sell those


This guy kept on changing the shit he says, I dont get why the vendor needs to keep on hiding behind "HIS FRIENDS" back.

The HSBC visa he has sent me (which I didnt even ask for), is clearly on the picture link of his thread.

Why not just admit you send me the wrong product, or you do not carry the products which I paid for?
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01.06.2015, 23:01
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seems like countdown not needed in that case.
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01.06.2015, 23:35
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He just came online briefly and tried talking to me again..

Card KingEnt (18:50)
can i contacct him? (CONTACT HIS "FRIEND" I SUPPOSE?)

Card KingEnt (18:50)
koz i havent even seen those products

Card KingEnt (18:51)
he just gave it to me wrapped up already

Card KingEnt (18:51)
and i shipped

azn raver (18:51)
go ahead.. you told me you were on the phone with him the whole time... ill tell you now. ALL 100 pieces are just two designs and ALL STICKERS..

Card KingEnt (18:51)
didnt he tell u that

Card KingEnt (18:51)
he ran out of those gold hsbc's

Card KingEnt (18:51)
and will get them again soon

azn raver (18:52)
yeah you told me after you shipped them out, and I thought they would AT LEAST BE heat stamped holo not stickers

azn raver (18:52)
and I didnt even ask for those two designs.

Card KingEnt (18:52)
i didnt see them at all

Card KingEnt (18:52)
come on man <-- WTF?

Card KingEnt (18:52)
u didnt like them?

Card KingEnt (18:52)
they werent printed

Card KingEnt (18:52)
they were done by offset

azn raver (18:54)
you even said it yourself that HEAT STAMPED HOLO is important for rocking Rolexs etc, we are a team of very serious people here. its not about the money, its about respect and time wasted.

azn raver (18:54)
we cant rock gold bars and rolexs with sticker holograms bro.


Card KingEnt (18:54)
im a carder myself

Card KingEnt (18:54)
i get rolex with those cards

Card KingEnt (18:54)
no need to get me on blacklist

Card KingEnt (18:54)
it wont change a thing bro

Card KingEnt (18:55)
i realy did not see the cards

Card KingEnt (18:55)
those were from a friend

Card KingEnt (18:55)
and i told u that

azn raver (18:55)
send me the plastics samples I asked for, WHICH YOU HAVE EVEN SHOWED ME AND TOLD ME HE HAS 1000++++ IN STOCK, and you called him on the phone right before I PAID you. or refund me.

Card KingEnt (18:56)
i told u when he said he ran out of those certain designs

azn raver (18:56)
BRO check your LOG, when I paid you were on the phone with him, and confirmed the order and price.

azn raver (18:57)
how can he run out of deisgns for simply 100 pieces RIGHT AFTER I PAID YOU?

azn raver (19:02)
nothing to say now?

azn raver (19:11)
?




He went offline on me again after this. Unfortunately my teams dont work in the Philippines, and are not skilled enough to card Rolexs with sticker plastics without front and back UV+ heatpressed holo.
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04.06.2015, 17:28
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Still nothing from vendor..

Everytime I tried reasoning with him regarding the wrong products he sent me,

he would reply "its my friend's stuff bro, no mine"
OR
"my friend is away bro, I never seen his products before" <--wtf..
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08.06.2015, 18:58
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Still no reply whatsoever from this vendor.

I even offered to ship back his plastics back to him for a refund.

Ignored me for the past 3 days now..
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13.06.2015, 17:04
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seems like countdown not needed in that case.

Up..
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Thanks for the Ripper status Petrovich

His last attempt to rip:

"Hey bro my friend has the plastics you want in stock now, send me money for the shipping and I will send you 35 pieces for free man."

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